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	<title>Comments on: Climate Deniers Turn Up Heat on Science Societies</title>
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		<title>By: How Grow Taller Naturally</title>
		<link>http://www.realscience.us/2009/11/12/climate-deniers-turn-up-heat-on-science-societies/comment-page-1/#comment-18445</link>
		<dc:creator>How Grow Taller Naturally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to write about this topic. I really appreciate it. I�ll post a link of this post in my site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to write about this topic. I really appreciate it. I�ll post a link of this post in my site.</p>
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		<title>By: bestgirls.com.ua</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the budget and head count of the office of accountability?</description>
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		<title>By: Windy City Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.realscience.us/2009/11/12/climate-deniers-turn-up-heat-on-science-societies/comment-page-1/#comment-18400</link>
		<dc:creator>Windy City Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please find a link to the report of the Ad‐Hoc Committee to Advise the APS President on Proposed Revisions of the 2007 Statement on Climate Change that you speak to in this article. Here is the start of the committee&#039;s discussion of their &quot;existing&quot; 2007 Statement on Climate Change

Discussion
There are a number of problems with this statement. The first sentence presents as a fact what is only a surmise. Although the evidence is strong that climate warming has anthropogenic sources, as described above,
anthropogenic warming is not a proven fact. Consequently, the wording in the first sentence “are changing the atmosphere” should have been “are probably changing the atmosphere”. In the second paragraph, the first sentence states that the fact of climate warming is incontrovertible, which is true. However, by its context this is
easily misread to mean that anthropogenic warming is incontrovertible. The only clue that there are uncertainties in the predictions for the global climate is the phrase “likely to occur” in the second paragraph. This hardly conveys the great uncertainties in analysis displayed in PSB. The paragraph as a whole has an alarmist tone that belies the underlying uncertainties.

So Mr. Bradbury do you disagree with the APS committee statement that, &quot;.....anthropogenic warming is not a proven fact.&quot;? Shouldn&#039;t real science be based on proven facts? 


http://climaterealists.com/attachments/database/APSAdHocCommitteeKleppnerReport.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please find a link to the report of the Ad‐Hoc Committee to Advise the APS President on Proposed Revisions of the 2007 Statement on Climate Change that you speak to in this article. Here is the start of the committee&#8217;s discussion of their &#8220;existing&#8221; 2007 Statement on Climate Change</p>
<p>Discussion<br />
There are a number of problems with this statement. The first sentence presents as a fact what is only a surmise. Although the evidence is strong that climate warming has anthropogenic sources, as described above,<br />
anthropogenic warming is not a proven fact. Consequently, the wording in the first sentence “are changing the atmosphere” should have been “are probably changing the atmosphere”. In the second paragraph, the first sentence states that the fact of climate warming is incontrovertible, which is true. However, by its context this is<br />
easily misread to mean that anthropogenic warming is incontrovertible. The only clue that there are uncertainties in the predictions for the global climate is the phrase “likely to occur” in the second paragraph. This hardly conveys the great uncertainties in analysis displayed in PSB. The paragraph as a whole has an alarmist tone that belies the underlying uncertainties.</p>
<p>So Mr. Bradbury do you disagree with the APS committee statement that, &#8220;&#8230;..anthropogenic warming is not a proven fact.&#8221;? Shouldn&#8217;t real science be based on proven facts? </p>
<p><a href="http://climaterealists.com/attachments/database/APSAdHocCommitteeKleppnerReport.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://climaterealists.com/attachments/database/APSAdHocCommitteeKleppnerReport.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Windy City Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.realscience.us/2009/11/12/climate-deniers-turn-up-heat-on-science-societies/comment-page-1/#comment-18398</link>
		<dc:creator>Windy City Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 16:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;....mankind is driving the climate and its subsequent change.&quot;

Your definition of &quot;climate denier&quot; is confusing. Was mankind responsible for climate change 130,000 years ago during the Eemian Period when according to ice core and sea floor sediment core data, the Earth was 5 degrees centigrade warmer than now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;.mankind is driving the climate and its subsequent change.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your definition of &#8220;climate denier&#8221; is confusing. Was mankind responsible for climate change 130,000 years ago during the Eemian Period when according to ice core and sea floor sediment core data, the Earth was 5 degrees centigrade warmer than now?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bradbury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bradbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question. Yes, there is a definition for &quot;climate deniers&quot; and it goes something like this.

Deniers are scientists, business leaders and academics who either deny the existence of global warming altogether or they deny that mankind is driving the climate and its subsequent change.

I recommend reading a book called &quot;The Deniers&quot; by Lawrence Solomon devoted to the topic. It is eye-opening and quite illuminating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question. Yes, there is a definition for &#8220;climate deniers&#8221; and it goes something like this.</p>
<p>Deniers are scientists, business leaders and academics who either deny the existence of global warming altogether or they deny that mankind is driving the climate and its subsequent change.</p>
<p>I recommend reading a book called &#8220;The Deniers&#8221; by Lawrence Solomon devoted to the topic. It is eye-opening and quite illuminating.</p>
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		<title>By: Windy City Kid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Windy City Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore was recently urged to revisit peer reviewed studies in January of 2009 and as a result has admitted in a recent interview with Newsweek that he is basically forced to admit that CO2 contributes only 40% to the warming climate. There are numerous new peer reviewed studies that have come out since January 2009 to show that 40% is still way too high and that land based temperature measurements have a significant warm bias flaw.

What is clear in the latest research is that too much focus was placed on man made CO2 and as a result many other equal or greater climate threats have been overlooked.

According to NASA scientists for example black carbon and atmospheric changes are the reason for arctic ice melt and that CO2 has been &quot;insignificant&quot; (using NASA&#039;s actual word) with respect to arctic ice melt. NASA accepts that reductions in CO2 will not slow arctic ice melt.

The APS statement from 2007 was based on IPCC AR4 summary findings which have already been made weaker by the latest climate research findings, it is only a matter of time before they will have to revisit the 2008 data as Al Gore did and the 2009 data which Al Gore still needs to do, and then rewrite their position to better reflect climate reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore was recently urged to revisit peer reviewed studies in January of 2009 and as a result has admitted in a recent interview with Newsweek that he is basically forced to admit that CO2 contributes only 40% to the warming climate. There are numerous new peer reviewed studies that have come out since January 2009 to show that 40% is still way too high and that land based temperature measurements have a significant warm bias flaw.</p>
<p>What is clear in the latest research is that too much focus was placed on man made CO2 and as a result many other equal or greater climate threats have been overlooked.</p>
<p>According to NASA scientists for example black carbon and atmospheric changes are the reason for arctic ice melt and that CO2 has been &#8220;insignificant&#8221; (using NASA&#8217;s actual word) with respect to arctic ice melt. NASA accepts that reductions in CO2 will not slow arctic ice melt.</p>
<p>The APS statement from 2007 was based on IPCC AR4 summary findings which have already been made weaker by the latest climate research findings, it is only a matter of time before they will have to revisit the 2008 data as Al Gore did and the 2009 data which Al Gore still needs to do, and then rewrite their position to better reflect climate reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Windy City Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.realscience.us/2009/11/12/climate-deniers-turn-up-heat-on-science-societies/comment-page-1/#comment-18395</link>
		<dc:creator>Windy City Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am unable to find the definition of &quot;climate denier&quot; in any dictionary. Does the author have a definition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am unable to find the definition of &#8220;climate denier&#8221; in any dictionary. Does the author have a definition?</p>
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